Project Correspondence for

The Global Grocery List Plus Project

Created by Jill McCue

Last Updated: July 23, 2002

Project Correspondence

For

The Global Grocery List Plus


(1st letter to project developer)
Dave, my name is Jill McCue, and I am interested in participating in the Global Grocery List. However, I am part of master's program at the University of Illinois in Curriculum, Technology and Educational Reform, and I've been asked to go a step further than just join your online project. My summer "class" consists of my 3 children and the 2 children of friends. I am proposing that my children gather
information from a central Illinois town of 1000 where we summer and friends of ours will gather prices from the suburb of Chicago in which we live during the school year. I would like to submit the prices from these 2 different locations so that future users will have the
opportunity to view different prices in different areas of the same state. My class will hypothesize about prices in different parts of
 the state and compare them both to prices already submitted to the site. How would you like me to submit the 2 sets, especially school name? I teach at Streamwood High School in Illinois although these will not be the "students" participating this summer. The locations will be Neoga, IL and Bartlett, IL. Also, I wondered if input about other price comparisons is ever added. For example, the price of a Big Mac at the nearest McDonalds. Any information you can share with me about submission of prices and your project would be greatly appreciated. I think it is a great project, and I plan to have my "real" students in the fall participate in their home communities, which are different than the 2 I'm using now.

 Thank you, Jill McCue

 

(Reply to above)

Jill
Thanks for the note and for your participation.  You idea of posting prices from both urban and rural locations in Illinois is an excellent
one.  If you create any strategies for how to compare and conclusions drawn from the comparison, please post them in the lesson strategies section.  I would identify yourself by the town you are in rather than a school.

I have not expanded the project beyond its initial range of 1987.  GGL was designed to be a very simple project for educators who are just beginning to use the Internet.

Thanks again!

-- dave --

David F. Warlick
The Landmark Project
Raleigh, NC  USA
919-571-3292
david@landmark-project.com
http://landmark-project.com or http://landmarks4schools.org

 

(2nd letter to project developer)

Dave, as you may recall I am the teacher who is using the list as a comparison between N and S IL.  I have submitted the prices and my students are having a good time with this.  We will begin our US comparisons tomorrow.  I will post any new lesson strategies on your site.  Because I am not setting up the project I was wondering if there were any set up, maintenance, participation woes or stories you would be willing to share w/ me as I work on this project.  Normally in this class at U of I we would be asked to join a project to learn from the developer then create our own.  However in 4 weeks there's not time so we've been asked to gather as much information as possible.  What have been the good and bad of the project? Any information you can offer would be appreciated.

Thank you, Jill McCue

 

(Reply to above)

A very good question.  As it turns out, I am away from my office doing some workshops near you in Downers Grove.  I'm having a great time (going to a minor league ball game tomorrow).  Then I'm off to Hong Kong for next week.
Anyway, this is been a fairly smooth project.  One of the real pluses is having the project database driven.  They relieve me from much of the information maintenance that is commonly associated with running an online project.
One of the initial struggles was finding terminology that was acceptable and practical for both U.S. participants and participants in other countries.  Again, the database and programming aspects have helped me to overcome the problems of using various currencies and units of measure.
Another plus for the project is that it is very simple.  It was designed that way, and I have held fairly firm to the idea that it remain simple.
I hope that this helps.  Please let me know if there are other questions that I can answer.

-- dave --

(Email to Bartlett friend requesting participation)
Hi, all's well in Neoga.   Have a favor to ask you.  I'm thinking about using the Global Grocery List for part of my project.  It's at http://www.landmark-project.com/ggl/ Here’s what I wrote my instructor.  “I would have my "students", my children who are in a central IL town of about 1000 find the prices in Neoga.  Children of friends of ours in our year round town of Bartlett, a suburb of Chicago will collect prices for us there and email them to us.  I plan to add a component to the price list.  For items that there is more than one brand I will ask that they use math skills to average 3 prices for that item.  My students will submit the
prices to the site.  At this point my children will pick a location in the US from the site where they would like to make a hypothesis about the price differences.  We will use the price results to check their hypothesis. Let me know what you think about this idea and if you have any suggestions for adding to the project.  The students are 5, 9, 9, 12 and 12.  I feel that this project has educational value for all of them.”

It looks kind of fun and couldn't hurt the math and language skills.  Do you think you'd be willing to participate with the boys?  One hypothesis for our kids that would be good for them to make is what is the difference in Bartlett and Neoga.  Let me know and I'll let you know what I hear from my teacher if it's a go.  Your boys would need to gather prices at one store.  Average the price of anything that has multiple brands, and either they could submit it or email to us and we'd submit it.

Talk to you later, Jill

 

(Reply to above)

Jill

The kids said it sounds like fun so count us in.  Just let us know what we need to price check and all the requirements. 

DC

 

(Lesson 1 email)

Hi, here is the price list or you can get it from the site at http://www.landmark-project.com/ggl/us_list.html

 

For any item that there is more than one brand, have the boys average up to 3 brands to get the price.  For example peanut butter use Jif, Skippy and Peter Pan.  Add them up and divide by 3.  If something is on sale that's fine, it may be here too.  For gas they can use 3 different stations, Stearns and 59 would be good for that!  Average housing and percapita income may be obtained from the village and last census or let me know and I'll research that for Bartlett and here.  When the boys have the prices just email them back to me and I'll submit.  Have the boys make a guess about if Bartlett or Neoga will be cheaper.  Maybe they can write a hypothesis statement like:  I think ________ will be cheaper than ________because______________.  After our prices are submitted I will ask them to look at other locations that have submitted prices and make a hypothesis about those compared to Bartlett/Neoga.  Let me know if you have any questions or problems.  I emailed the project director today to see how he wants me to submit these as one person in 2 locations. 

Talk to you soon, Jill

U.S.World Grocery List

 

 Below is the grocery list template for participants who live in the United States. The best way to
 report your prices is to copy the template, paste it into your e-mail program and type in the
 prices. You can also use a GGL Forms page to input your prices and have the web take care of
 posting them.

 

                              QUANTITY ITEM PRICE 

 


                              -------------------------------------

 


                              1 pound.....HAMBURGER........... .

 


                              1 pound.....RICE................

 


                              1 pound.....ORANGES.............

 


                              1 pound.....SUGAR...............

 


                              1 pound.....ALL PURPOSE FLOUR...

 


                              1 gallon....WHOLE MILK..........

 


                              1 pound.....CHOCOLATE...........

 


                              1 pound.....POTATOES............

 


                              1 pound.....BUTTER..............

 


                              1 pound.....CORN................

 


                              1 pound.....PEANUT BUTTER.......

 


                              1 pound.....COFFEE..............

 


                              1 pound.....WHOLE CHICKEN.......

 


                              1 Egg.......EGGS................

 


                              1 gallon....PREMIUM UNLEADED GAS

 


                              AVERAGE MONTHLY COST FOR HOUSING

 


                              AVERAGE PERCAPITA INCOME

 


                              LONGITUDE AND LATITUDE

 

(Reply to lesson 1)

Hey There!

 

Here are our answers and pictures.  Choose whichever one you want.  We went to the Village to find the longitude and latitude but they had no clue and neither did the website so we went on Ask Jeeves and found it.  Amazing what this technology will do.   

 


                              1 pound.....HAMBURGER...........$3.32

 


                              1 pound.....RICE................ $.89

 


                              1 pound.....ORANGES............. $.71

 


                              1 pound.....SUGAR............... $.45

 


                              1 pound.....ALL PURPOSE FLOUR... $.35

 


                              1 gallon....WHOLE MILK.......... $2.69

 


                              1 pound.....CHOCOLATE........... $5.31

 


                              1 pound.....POTATOES............ $.52

 


                              1 pound.....BUTTER.............. $3.39

 


                              1 pound.....CORN................ $1.46

 


                              1 pound.....PEANUT BUTTER....... $1.90

 


                              1 pound.....COFFEE.............. $3.84

 


                              1 pound.....WHOLE CHICKEN....... $1.54

 


                              1 Egg.......EGGS................ $.18

 


                              1 gallon....PREMIUM UNLEADED GAS  $1.71 

 


                              AVERAGE MONTHLY COST FOR HOUSING

 $660 Rent as of 1997/ $184,921 Average value of homes in 1997


                              AVERAGE PERCAPITA INCOME

$77,539 as of 1989

 


                              LONGITUDE  -88.19208

                              LATITUDE    41.97804

 

Alex's hypothesis is that Neoga will be cheaper than Bartlett because Bartlett is a bigger town.

Bret's hypothesis is that Bartlett will be cheaper than Neoga because it is bigger and will be able to purchase more stuff and sell it easier because of all the people.

We went to the Village and the information is as current as they have even though they did a census in 2000.  They didn't do any of this information just how many people.

Hope this is what you wanted.  I'll send the pictures separately.

DC

 

(Email to share Illinois findings)

Hi,

Have the boys go to http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/jmccue/illinoishyp.htm to see all the kids’ hypotheses.  Then they can go to the Global Grocery List site to view the prices we submitted.  The findings for Illinois are at http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/jmccue/illinoisfind.htm.  They can see how they did.

Jill

 

 

(Email lesson for part 2 of project)

Hello,

I've looked at the site and for 2002 there are few communities to compare with, but I think I have 5 that will do. Rather than have the kids choose as I had previously thought I’d do, I decided I’d better pick the places that seemed to have the most accurate submissions to compare with.

Alex has New Orleans, LA dated 5/6/02

Bret has Central Point, OR dated 5/27/02

Matt has Gillet, PA dated 6/5/02

Sam has Yorba Linda, CA dated 5/16/02

Madi and I will do Medford, OR dated 5/25/02

Lesson:  Do not look at the prices submitted yet!

Do some Internet research about your town.  Find out the population, location, and any facts about the town.  Make a "fact sheet"/report about your town.  Now make a hypothesis about your out of IL town and your town in IL.  So Bret and Alex will hypothesize about their new town to Bartlett based on what they find out about their town.  Any questions email or call me.  We have some time to do this.  I'd like the fact sheet/report and hypothesis w/ findings in 1 week 6/26.  If we're a little off, it shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks and have fun, Jill 

 

(Email to share findings and web pages)

I got the boys’ work.  I've been working on the site all morning. Give it a look and let the boys see how their hypotheses came out. They can view any prices they’d like now.  Actually, the kids’ price lists were able to help a classmate of mine doing a similar project.  I submitted for Neoga and Bartlett.   URL is http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/jmccue/activity1.html so the boys can see their “published” work.

I took out last names for kids' safety.  It's something we've talked about in class and really no need for them.  Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!  Jill

 

(Reply to above)

Hey!

The boys think your site is really cool

DC

 

 

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